How Accountants Can Sell Effectively and Add More Value - Accounting Voices Podcast

Episode 30

How Accountants Can Sell Effectively and Add More Value

Published on: 27th December, 2018

Phil Sayers has spent his life in sales. He’s sold products as varied as building materials, storage and logistics equipment, design services, telemarketing services, IT systems management and testing software, satellite communications equipment and software, and accounting and payroll software.

He’s sold and managed sales team around the world and is old enough to have seen how new technology has radically changed the way we work, from the introduction of fax machines, pagers, mobile phones and of course, the internet and cloud technologies.

In the 1990’s, Phil ran one of the fastest growing Sage Resellers in the UK, during a period that saw the early transition from DOS to Windows based software and more recently returned to the Accounting Software sector as Sales and Marketing Director and interim CEO of one of the UK’s cloud accounting software vendors.

In 2018, having worked with accountants and observed the challenges faced by those practices that wanted to expand into the area of advisory services, he founded Proten Sales Development, working with accountants to help improve the effectiveness of their clients’ sales activities. He also heads up the UK business development activities of The Gap Portal, web based software that enables accountants to market, sell and deliver high value advisory services in a consistent, repeatable way. Shownotes:

  • The more successful clients are, the more profitable things are for the accountant
  • Compliance is changing, but definitely not dying
  • The two ways the market for accounting services is changing
  • Technology is generating massive operational efficiency
  • Real time data allows accountants to pinpoint and advise on problems and opportunities before they become issues
  • Downward pressure on fees makes it difficult for accountants to differentiate themselves
  • The four broad groups of accounting firms – lifestyle, growth, exit and niche
  • The different attitudes accounting firms have towards change in a disruptive world
  • Why there’s nothing wrong focusing an accounting practice solely on compliance
  • How technology is helping accountants to be so much quicker and more efficient
  • Many accountants struggle to articulate the benefit of technology to clients and the need for good sales skills
  • How the generation gap plays out in accounting when it comes to technology
  • How accountants can add value in a digital world by making the clients life as easy and free as possible
  • Case study – what is it actually like for someone looking for a new accountant
  • The two reasons why accountants don’t sit comfortably with the word ‘selling’
  • Why the technical nature of accounting makes it difficult to learn the skills of communication and selling
  • It’s what clients ‘don’t know that they don’t know’ that can add massive value from the accountant
  • The struggles accountants have with positioning and selling their advice
  • A lot of accountants like the idea of selling more advisory services but struggle with how to do it
  • Why it’s difficult for accountants to position and sell advisory services without a tool or platform like the GAP Portal
  • The problem of scalability of advisory services – it’s not enough to have one or two champions in an accounting firm who can sell it
  • Selling accounting advisory takes a different set up skills to selling audit and regular compliance work
  • Interpersonal skills – the missing ingredient that helps accountants sell advisory to clients
  • Advisory for accountants opens up a much more interesting career path for young professionals than mere compliance
  • Big problem for accountants in doing advisory work is charging for it – it’s hard to break away from years of pricing in a particular way
  • Compliance isn’t dead for accounting firms – many accountants still excel at and really enjoy that critical side of the work
  • In order to provide the best service to clients, you need lots of weapons and ammunition
  • The best accountants build up a network of useful, trusted professionals they can introduce to their clients
  • The accounting profession is the second most highly trusted profession behind healthcare
  • Learn three great questions to get the advisory conversation on the agenda.

Phil is regularly asked to speak on the changing landscape and future of the accounting services market and has published a book It’s All About The Value; a simple step by step approach to help small businesses improve the effectiveness of their selling activities. Find out more at www.protensd.co.uk or to contact Phil directly:

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Accounting Voices Podcast
Accounting Voices helps people in the accounting world stay relevant visible and vocal. Host Rob Brown interprets trends reshaping the profession and gives listeners insight to build authority influence and a stronger voice in firms and markets.
Accounting Voices, hosted by Rob Brown, helps decision makers and leaders in accounting and finance stay relevant, visible and vocal in a profession being reshaped by technology, private equity, regulation and shifting client expectations. Each episode interprets the trends disrupting accounting and finance such as AI, automation, M&A, talent and the move to advisory and translates them into practical insight that strengthens authority and influence.
Accounting Voices is also a platform for the wider ecosystem of networks, associations, educators, consultants, software vendors and technology experts who serve accountants and finance professionals worldwide. It extends into regular Accounting Voices networking sessions that connect this audience and amplify ideas that move the profession forward. With its international reach and long shelf life the show delivers credibility and commercial value for listeners and sponsors alike. Search for "Accounting Voices" on YouTube for all episodes and connect with Rob Brown on LinkedIn to find out more: https://www.linkedin.com/in/therobbrown

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Rob Brown

ob Brown is the creator and host of the Accounting Voices Network, a media platform that includes the flagship solo podcast Accounting Voices and the panel shows Accounting M&A and Accounting Tech. He chairs conferences, panels and virtual events worldwide and is recognised as a leading advocate for the accounting profession.

He is an accomplished speaker and authority on trust, reputation, employer brand, talent, succession, executive presence and the forces shaping the future of accounting. Rob is the author of the bestselling book Build Your Reputation (Wiley) and his TEDx talk The Personal Brand of You has been viewed more than 400,000 times.

A former co-founder of the Accounting Influencers Roundtable, Rob now focuses on amplifying the voices of leaders, firms, networks, vendors and influencers across the global accounting ecosystem.

Outside of work he is a stroke survivor, lives with epilepsy, holds a black belt in kickboxing and is based in Nottingham, UK. He plays chess and backgammon, loves orange chocolate and is allergic to grapefruit.